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(Evidence of incapacity)

Brennholzinteressenten
(Persons interested in firewood.)

Baumuehle, Bolsehle, Borstel, Brockoloh, Brunenborstel, Eilvese, Finkalenheide, Husum, Gross Varlingen, Hagen, Laderholz, Langendamm, Linsburg, Mariensee, Noepke, Schessinghausen, Vorthoff, Wenden (places between Nienburg and Neustadt am Rubenberge, borderlined to the Lippe area, west of Hannover).

This list contains names of persons receiving firewood and the amount of firewood from the responsible forester. It was written in the winter of 1846 / 1847 by the forester Mr. Piepho. Persons ordered and paid for firewood, others like Eleonore Koehler (document on the left) were too poor to purchase firewood. Others had the traditional right to get it at no cost, such as schools or cloisters.

Between the towns of Nienburg and Neustadt is a big forest named Grinderwald. The prussian government employed many people to use the forest for hunting and also for doing other business. Foresters were responsible for spreading or delivering firewood before each winter to people in the surrounding villages. In those days heating and cooking was done with wood (no gas, electricity, or oil). In the years after 1800 many people became quite poor as the industries, mainly enforced by steam engines and large factories where goods were produced more and more in masses and not by single persons.

Many of the names appearing on the list have descendents who immigrated to America hoping to have a better life. It was mainly the work of the church to collect money for the poor and to organize other kind of help. The Armutszeugnis is a good example. Unmarried and old women or widows were in a quite poor situation. Often widows will marry relatives such as a brother of their deceased husband. They would care for the household while he would earn money for the family. It was a better situation on the farms as traditionally the older persons had already for centuries the right to spend their last days at home on the "Altenteil" and the younger ones who took over the farm had to care for food. The Altenteil was mainly one or two rooms, sometimes a small house on the farm.


Map
Documents, descriptions and translations courtesy of Manfred Moersner (2005). [List found at a locat flea market in Germany.]
A woman so poor that officials would give her firewood for the cold winter.

Das die unverehlichte Eleonore Koehler in Langendamm arm ist, nur wenig mit ihrer Hande Arbeit verdient und daher der Unterstutzung, vornehmlich in diesem strengen Winter, sehr bedarf, wird hiermit attestirt.
Husum, d. 8. Januar 1861
SEAL PARISH HUSUM H. Boening, Pastor

An den Herrn Rvs. Wallmann zu Linsburg
No 81
die unverehelichte Eleonore Koehler zu Langendamm deren Armuth von dem Pastor Bening zu Husum bescheinigt ist, hat um eine Unterstutzung durch Brennholz gebeten. Der Herr Revierfoerster wolle dieselbe bei der diss- jahrigen Brennholzabgabe berucksichtigen und die Abgabe in das betr: Verzeichnis mit aufnehmen. Nienburg, den 15. Jan: 61

The unmarried Eleonore Koehler from Langendamm, whose poorness is certified by Pastor Boening from Husum, asked for being supported with firewood. The district forester gets order to initiate it when firewood gets arranged this year. He also is asked to write it in the corresponding list of Brennholzinteressenten for this year.


Church at Husum
(Photo courtesy of Georgia Neuhring Bruns.)

The following abbreviations are used, sometimes in a slightly different spelling.

Bauermeister = similar a chairman but here for the local farmers
Christ = Christian
Conr = Conrad
derselbe = the same as above
Diedr. = Diederich
Der Hirte = the shepherd
Das Hirtenhaus = the shepherds house
Die Schule = the school
Erben = inheritor(s),
NOTE: Kammeyers Erben = inheritor of Kammeyer (s is added!),
Raben Erben = inheritor of Rabe (n is added),
but exceptions possible=see Helfers in Wenden
Fr. = Friedrich
Hauptmann = captain
Heinr = Heinrich
Hr =Heinrich
Jnr = junior
Jurg = Juergen
Ludw = Ludwig
Paechter = renter
Phil = Phillip
Schule = school
Seni = senior
Wilh. = Wilhelm
Wittwe = widow

Brennholzinteressenten / Grinderwald bei Nienburg Jahr: 1846 / 1847 Foerster Piepho
Lfd. Nr. Vor-Name Ort Nachname Staemme Klftr. Verlosete Jahr: 1846 / 1847

Langendamm
1 Conrad Stelling 2 3/4 2
2 Friedrich Nordmann 3 3/4 3
3 Christ. Erasting 3 3/4 4
4 Friedr. Heine 3 1 1/2 5
5 Friedrich Bucholz 8 ? 6 1847
6 Das Hirtenhaus 1 3/8 297

Gross Varlingen
1 Diedr. Fischer 2 3/4 1
2 Fr. Meyer 2 3/4 7
3 Hr. Borcherding 2 1 1/2 8
4 Hr. Luehring 2 1 1/2 9
5 Hr. Beermann 3 1 1/2 10
6 Phielip Kahle 3 1 1/2 11
7 Wilh. Meyer 3 1 1/2 12
8 Diedrich Kueker 3 1 1/2 13
9 Cr. Borcherding 1 3/4 14
10 Das Hirtenhaus 1 3/8 297

Schessinghausen
1 Cr. Block 2 3/4 15
2 Diedrich Auhage 2 1 1/2 16
3 Heinrich Borcherding 17
4 Diedrich Block 2 3/4 18
5 Heinrich Mueller 19
6 Ludwig Biermann 3 1 1/2 20
7 Diedr. Hahne 3 3/4 21
8 Diedr. Borcherding 22
9 Hr. Block 3 1 1/2 23
10 Cr. Craemer 4 3/4 24
11 Wittw: Bergmann 1 3/4 25
12 Fr. Borcherding 3 3/4 26
13 Conr. Wegener 2 3/4 27
14 Heinrich Hoffmeyer 3 3/4 28
15 Fr. Block 2 3/4 29
16 Fr. Heine 3 3/4 30
17 Bauermester Hartmann 1 3/4 31
18 Kammeyers Erben 5 3/4 32
19 Conrad Kammeyer 4 3/4 33
20 Conrad Fischer 3 3/4 34
21 Diedr. Meyer 2 3/4 35
22 Fr. Homeyer 5 3/4 36
23 Die Schule 2 3/8 37 1847
24 Christ. Auhage 3 3/4 38
25 Diedr. Balmann 3 3/4 39
26 Heinr. Freitag 3 3/4 40
27 Fr. Borcherding 3 3/4 41
28 Heinrich Hoffmeyer 2 3/4 42
29 Kuhirte Kleinschmidt 1 3/4 43
30 Fr. Nordmeyer

Finkalenheide 2 1 1/2 44
45
1 Fr. Schreiber
Das Hirtenhaus 1 3/8 296

Brockoloh
1 Diedrich Broeckelmann 2 3/4 46
2 Fr. Fettler 2 3/4 47
3 Conrad Hoffmeyer 2 3/4 48 ........
4 Conrad Winkelmann 1 3/4 49
5 Christ. Block 2 3/4 50 Rodewald
6 Conr. Mund 2 3/4 51
7 Hr. Bries 1 3/4 52
8 Conr. Mueller 53
9 Heinrich Hoffmeyer 3 1 1/2 54
10 Wilh. Kirchhoff 3 3/4 55
11 Fr. Brahe 2 3/4 56
12 Conr. Schneppel 2 3/4 57
13 Conr. Brahe 2 3/4 58
14 Fr. Asche 2 3/4 59
15 Fr. Beermann Bust 1 3/4 60
16 Conr. Kregel 2 3/4 61
17 Christ. Luehring 3 3/4 62
18 Fr. Hoffmeyer 2 3/4 63 frei 31 die Schule
19 Christ. Oelschlaeger 3 3/4 64 frei 33 das Hirtenhaus
20 Hr. Hoffmeyer 3 3/4 65

Husum
1 Kregels Erben 2 3/4 66
2 Fr. Luehring 67
3 Conr. Plagge 3 1 1/2 68
4 Fr. Block 69
5 Conr. Borcherding 2 1 1/2 70
6 Fr. Mund 2 3/4 71
7 Hr. Hahne 2 3/4 72
8 Hr. Borcherding 73
9 Hr. Meyer 4 1 1/2 74
10 Christ. Borcherding 75
11 Hr. Meyer 2 1 1/2 76
12 Hr. Siemers 2 3/4 77
13 Conr. Wiebking 2 3/4 78
14 Heinr. Hoffmeyer 79
15 Hr. Quade 3 1 1/2 80
16 Hr. Holst 1 3/4 81
17 Fr. Block 1 3/4 82
18 Wilh. Gosslar 83
19 Fr. Fedler 4 2 1/4 84
20 Fr. Hoffmeyer 85
21 Heinr. Gerberding 86
22 Fr. Block 2 1 1/2 87
23 Hr. Hartmann 88
24 Hr. Blumen Erben 2 1 1/2 89
25 Fr. Mund 2 3/4 90
26 Christ. Menge 1 3/4 91
27 Schleiters Erben 2 3/4 92
28 Wilh. Meyer 2 3/4 93
29 Christ Borcherding 2 3/4 94
30 Christ Wiebking 1 3/4 95
31 Friedr. Block 1 3/4 96
32 Heinr. Runge 1 3/4 97
33 Fr. Mussmann 98
34 Hr. Block 2 1 1/2 99
36 Wilh. Homeyers Erben 1 3/4 100
42 Christ. Blume 1 3/4 105
43 Das Hirtenhaus 2 3/8 296

Bolsehle
1 Hr. Kruse 101
2 Hr. Roedemeyer 4 1 1/2 102
3 Blocks Erben 103 1/2 Pfund
4 Hr. Brase 3 1 1/2 104
5 Kregels Erben 1 3/4 106
6 Fr. Borcherding 1 3/4 107
7 Hr. Block 108
8 Diedr. Kruse 2 1 1/2 109
9 Hr. Dettmer 1 3/4 110
10 Diedr. Broeckelmann 111
11 Conr. Dettmer 3 1 1/2 112
12 Conrad Dettmer 2 3/4 113
13 Fr. Roedemeyer 1 3/4 114
14 Heinr. Mueller 115
15 Heinr. Fette 2 1 1/2 116
16 Heinr. Dannemann 1 3/4 117
17 Heinr. Struckmann 1 3/4 118
18 Conr. Fischer 119
19 Hr. Struckmann 2 1 1/2 120
20 Hr. Fricke 2 1 1/2 121/122
21 Das Hirtenhaus 2 1 1/2 121/122 184 8/9 1te Fuder
22 Diedrich Staffort 1 3/4 3/8 123

Linsburg pro 84 4/8 184 8/9
1 Wilhelm Beermann 124 1 Fuder
2 Died. Fischer 2 1 1/2 125 1
3 Heinr. Fischer 126 1
4 Heinr. Engelbert 3 2 1/2 127 1
5 Heinrich Dettmer 128 1
6 Fr. Engelbert 129 1
7 Fr. Staffort 2 1 1/2 130 1
8 Fr. Radewald 131 1
9 Heinrich Kruse 1 1 1/2 132 1
10 Witwe Beermann 3 3/4 133 1
11 Heinrich Degener 2 3/4 134 1
12 Fr. Franke 1 3/4 135 1
13 Diedrich Dannenbrink 136 1
14 Christ. Beermann 4 1 1/2 137 1
15 Christ. Engelbert 138 1
16 Witwe Kraas 9 1 1/2 138 1
17 Wilh. Engelbert 2 3/4 140 1
18 Hr. Borcherding 2 3/4 141 1
19 Fr. Luehring 2 3/4 142 1
20 Heinr. Beermann 1 3/4 143 1
21 Wilh. Reinfurt 144 1
22 Conrad Schwiering 4 1 1/2 145 1
23 Heinr. Kahle 4 3/4 146 1
24 Fr. Knooke 3 3/4 147 1
25 Hr. Mehlpitz 3 3/4 148 1
26 Wittwe Wiebkens 2 3/4 149 1
27 Hr. Dettmer Binst 3 3/4 150 1
28 Fr. Gerberding 2 3/4 151 1
29 Hr. Dettmer 152 1
30 Fr. Kruse 3 1 1/2 153 1
31 Schulhaus 1 3/4 154 1
32 Hirtenhaus 2 3/4 155 1
33 Fr. Staffort 156 1
34 Wittwe Beermann 2 1 1/2 157 1
35 Diedr. Eickhoff 159 1
36 Diedr. Wedeking 2 1 1/2 160 1
37 Unterfoerster Brettmann
1 3/4 158 3/4 Klft ( = Klafter )
38 Wilh. Cordes 161 3/4
39 Wilh. Poppe 3 1 1/2 162 3/4
40 Fr. Hoffmeyer 163 3/4
41 Fr. Dettmer 3 1 1/2 164 3/4
42 Christian Beermann 1 3/4 167 3/4
J?? Beudel Birken Holz
Noepke pro 184 4/8 184 8/9
1 Heinrich Hogrebe 165 1 Fuder
2 Christ. Scharrenhorst 3 1 1/4 166 1
3 Diedr. Scharrenhorst 168 1
4 Heinrich Dunsing 3 1 1/4 169 1
5 Hr. Plumhoff 3 3/4 170 1
6 Diedr. Kueker 3 3/4 171 1
7 Fr. Dunsing 1 3/4 172 1
8 Juergen Raabe 3 3/4 173 1
9 Hr. Kasten 2 3/4 174 1
10 Hr. Hogrebe 3 3/4 175 1 1/2 Pfund
11 Diedr. Hoermann 2 3/4 176 1
12 Juergen Shoesling 5 3/4 177 1 1/2 Pfund
13 Hr. Juergens 1 3/4 178 1 1/2 Pfund
14 Juer. Sternberg 3 3/4 179 1
15 Krueger Roesel 1 3/4 180 1/4
16 Diedr. Bunge 181 1
17 Diedr. Langrer 3 1 1/2 182 1
18 Hr. Kahle 183 1
19 Hr. Schneeweiss 3 1 1/2 184 1
20 Lud. S ?? be 1 3/4 185 1
21 Fr. Dunsing 1 3/4 186 1
22 Hr. Gerberding 187 1
23 Hr. Hoermann 3 1 1/2 188 1
24 Fr. Dunsing 1 3/4 189 1
25 Diedr. Kueker 3 3/4 190 1/2
26 Juergen Rabe 2 3/4 191 1
27 Died. Hr Scharnhorst 192 1
28 Heinrich Juergens 3 1 1/2 193 1
29 Heinrich Meyer 2 3/4 194 1
30 Fried. Meyer 2 3/4 195 1/8
31 Fried. Rickenberg 3 3/4 196 1/2
32 Died. Hoermann 4 3/4 197 1 Pfund
33 Diedr. Dunsing 2 3/4 198 1
34 Das Hirtenhaus 2 1/2 299 1/2 25 1/8 Klftr

Hagen
1 Friedr. Hahne 2 3/4 200
2 Fr. Schagt 1 3/4 201
3 Heinr. Burtling 1 3/4 202
4 Heinr. Wischstaedt 2 3/4 203
5 Diedr. Hograebe 204
6 Hr. Kahls Erben 2 1 1/2 205
7 Hr. Habermann 1 1 1/2 206
8 Juergen Thiemann 2 1 1/2 207
9 Diedr. Hahne 208
10 Heinr. Hahne 1 3/4 209
11 Heinrich Knop 210
12 Heinrich F?dler 3 1 1/2 211
13 Fr. Raben Erben 2 3/4 212
14 Diedr. Schmidts Erben 1 3/4 213
15 Juerg. Hahne 2 3/4 214
16 Fr. Mehring 1 3/4 215
17 Heinr. Bartling 3 3/4 216
18 Heinr. Hahne 4 3/4 217
19 Aschen Erben 3 3/4 218
20 August Beermann 219
21 Heinrich Hogrebe 2 1 1/2 220
22 Heinr. Deicke 1 3/4 221
23 Ludw. Hahne 4 3/4 222
27 Diedrich Fette 1 3/4 223
28 Diedrich Kahle 1 3/4 224
29 Heinrich Hahne 226
30 Heinrich Juergens 227
31 Das Hirtenhaus 1 3/8
N00 199 ist ausgefalle

Eilvese
1 Bauermeister Luebbert 1 3/4 225
2 Friedr. Beermann 228
3 Heinr. Wiene 3 1 1/2 229
4 Diedr. Kruse 230
5 Fr. Rabe 1 1 1/2 231
6 Heinr. Behrens 232
7 Heinrich Heidorn 2 1 !/2 233
8 Conr. Tohms 1 3/4 234
9 Fr. Juergens 1 3/4 235
10 Wilh. Plumhoff 236
11 Heinrich Mehring 4 1 1/2 237
12 Fr. Dannenberg 1 3/4 238
13 Fr. Tegtmeyer 1 3/4 239
14 Wilh. Fedtler 1 3/4 240
15 Wittwe Koeneke 2 3/4 241
16 Heinr. Scharnhorst 3 3/4 242
17 Fr. Hasselbrink 1 3/4 243
18 Fr. Wegener 2 3/4 244
19 Heinr. Mussmann 3 3/4 245
20 August Engelke 3 2 1/2 246/247/248
21 Diedr. Juergens 246/247/248
22 Fr. Kuhlmann 3 2 1/4 246/247/248
23 Juergens Erben 249
24 Heinrich Wegener 1 1 1/2 250
25 Fr. Luebbert 3 3/4 251
26 derselbe 1 3/4 252
27 derselbe 2 3/4 253
28 Fr. Dannenbrink 2 3/4 254
29 Ludw. Rademacher 255
30 Heinrich

Borstel
1 Heinrich Dunsing 262
2 Hr. Hasselbrink 3 2 1/4 263
3 Hr. Niemeyer 264
4 Died. Wegener 265
5 Heinrich Kirchhoff 2 1 1/2 266
6 Heinrich Dannenbrink 267
7 Paechter Fr. Scharrenhorst 268
8 Diedr. Kuecker 269
9 Christ Dunsing 2 1 1/2 270
10 Ludw. Hogrebe 271
11 Christ. Hasselbrink 2 1 1/2 272
12 Heinr. Kuecker 273
13 Diedr. Hasselbrink 1 2 1/4 274
14 Phielib Brase 275
15 Heinrich Dunsing 276
16 Friedrich Glaue 2 1 1/2 277
17 Fr. Twackmann 278 1/2 Pfund
18 Heinrich Liefert 2 1 1/2 279
19 Fr. Kuecker 280
20 Christ. Niemeyer 2 1 1/2 281
21 Heinrich Hasselbrink 282
22 Heinrich Oetting 2 1 1/2 283
23 Heinrich Hoeper 1 3/4 284
24 Diedr Biermann 1 3/4 285
25 Christ Oetting 286
26 Fr. Biermann 3 1 1/2 287
27 Heinrich Wilkening 1 3/4 288
28 Fr. Brase 2 3/4 289
29 Diedr Schwarze 1 3/4 290
30 Die Schule 1 3/4 291 292 ist ubrig
31 Fr. Vagt 2 1 1/2 293 1/2 Pfund
32 Hr. Beermann 294
33 Das Hirtenhaus 3/4 900

Laderholz pro 1847
1 Diedrich Hogrebe 1
2 Heinrich Dangers 1
3 Wilh. Bertramm 1
4 Diedrich Dangers 1
5 Christian Seehausen 1
6 Heinrich Wortram ? 1
7 Heinrich Meyer 1
8 Diedrich Knop 1
9 Heinrich Kluender 1
10 Heinrich Knigge 1
11 Heinrich Backhaus 1
12 Ludwig Lieseberg 1
13 Christoph Meyer 1
14 Diedrich Bertramm 1
15 Heinrich Schmidt 1
16 Diedrich Hartje 1
17 Diedrich Runge 1
18 Diedrich Knop 1
19 Heinrich Gruenemann 1
20 Heinrich Kruse 1
21 Heinrich Kehrbach 1
22 Die Schule 1/2
23 Das Hirtenhaus 1/2

Vorthoff pro 1847
1 Heinrich Hasselbrink 1

Baumuehle pro 1847
1 Gottlieb Voss 1

Brunenborstel pro 1847
1 Heinrich Haspelnath 1
probably misspelled / corrected: Haspelmath
2 Heinrich Bartels 1

Mariensee pro 1847
1 Hauptmann Schuster 1
2 Balmeier Haneputt 1

Wenden pro 1846/47
1 Heinrich Helfers 1
2 Friedrich Bister 1
3 Diedrich Kruse 1
4 Heinrich Habermann Jnr. 1
5 Heinrich Habermann Seni. 1
6 Heinrich Rabe 1
7 Fr. Helfers Erben 1
8 Heinr. Runge 1
9 Ludw. Beermann 1
10 Heinrich Dauel 1
11 Wilh. Beermann 1
12 Friedr. Bister 1
13 Friedr. Twackmann 1
14 Friedr. Haesemeyer 1
15 Heinr. Krumwiede 1
16 Diedr. Helfers 1
17 Friedr. Hahne 1
18 Heinrich Pallworth 1
19 Heinrich Beermann 1
20 Heinrich Bergman 1
21 Heinrich Stute 1
22 Heinrich Bartels 1
23 Heinrich Runge 1
24 Heinrich Thiese 1
25 Heinrich Hahn 1
27 Diedr. Meyer 1
28 Heinrich Beermann 1
29 Diedrich Laue 1
30 Fr. Hahn Erben 1
31 Diedrich Rabe 1
34 Das Hirtenahaus 1
35 Die Schule 1

Hannover 28 AUG 1862

Foresters of the area who asked for support as all the goods they buy for living became more expensive. List contains titles, names, location and amount of money, etc.

Surnames: Blume, Heitmann, Block, Hagenburg, Scheibe, Hillmann, Winkelmann, Lahmann, Weber, Leeseberg, Schulz, Hahne, Fielitz.



Updated April 2006.

1866
widow of the forester Freckmann from Metel
daughters of the forester Schuster

1869
Louise Arnecke, widow of the Holzvoigt Arnecke, 66 years old, living in Hoyerhagen
2 daughters from which one emigrated to America and one is in ?ornha?sen

Harrendorf, widow of the Holzvoigt (Holzvoigt=wood reeve) Harrendorf, 76 years old, living in Winzlar
2 unmarried daughters who work in Hannover city

Carspecken, widow of the forester Carspecken, 53 years old, living in Nenndorf (department Stolzenau), 6 children
- son Friedrich, 30 years old, forester
- son Carl, 28 years old, emigrated to America
- daughter Johanne, 23 years old, working, unmarried
- daughter Helene, 21 years old, working, unmarried
- son Heinrich, 18 years old, going to school
- son Ferdinand, 16 years old, going to school

Fennigkoh, widow of the forestry assessor (senior)Fennigkoh who worked in Uchte, then Nenndorf
62 years old, living in Nienburg, 1 son, 37 years old, unmarried, living in bad circumstances

Maria Hulke, widow of Mr. Hulke, 50 years old, living in Borstel
4 children, older ones do their duty in the army, youngest one 13 years old still going to school

Adele Erdmann, widow of head forester Erdmann who died Oct. 1868 in Leese, 29 years old, living in Hildesheim
3 children, 2 boys (Fritz and Georg) in the age of 9 and 8, and 1 girl (Else) with the age of 6,
birth dates 16th of March 1859, 12th of November 1860, and 16th of July 1862

Schaefer, widow of the forester Schaefer, 72 years old, living in Everode
1 son who is headforester in Harpstedt

Henschel, widow of the forester Henschel from Weberkothe, 74 years old
living in Mellinghausen, department Sulingen, children unknown

Elderhorst, orphans since at least 1864, last original written letter from their mother is dated 1852
she worked as a teacher in Gifhorn and was attacked by a strokelet in 1850
2 daughters named Caroline and Fredrike living in Nienburg still get "widow" retirement pay

Jolie Homeyer, daughter of the forester Homeier from Oyle, age unknown, living in Achim

Hadlundorf, widow of the forestry assessor Hadlundorf in Nienburg, age: very old, living in Nienburg
1 daughter who is married to a very poor cigar maker

Gesterling, widow of the forestry assessor Gesterling, age unknown, from Linsburg

Friedrike Auguste Elise Nolte, daughter of the forester Nolte who worked in Freidorf and moved after
retirement to zur Krähe in Wölpe, age 33, from Wölpe, unmarried

Elise and Friedrike Hespe, daughters of the forester Hespe, from Siedenburg, age not known
living in Eystrup, unmarried

Wallmann, widow of the wood reeve Wallmann from Klein Borstel, age unknown
living in Winsan (at the river Aller), at least one daughter with first name E. marriage name Thies
who lived 8th of July 1869 in Winsen (handwritten letter)

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